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09.15.01

These people have no sense of right and wrong in my book. In over 2000 years they have created war after war after war. All fueled and pawned by the hatred between religious beleifs. Regardless of whether we(US) aided them or not. They still would have received these things if not from us, from the great powers to there east or north. In fact they already do. Case in point nuclear arms given from china to pakistan. What do they do? Turn around and hand them over to afgahnastan to use. We are not the only evil, which you are well aware of. Yes I do agree with you that the Companies on a GLOBAL level have not helped for they put blinders on when dealing with ethics and morals. A dollar is a dollar, a yen is a yen and a pound is a pound.

There definatly needs to be some element of control that stops business from selling parts to countries that are known to have a violent history. Maybe NATO should keep a more careful watch over this. Of course then again even a pen makes a very mighty weapon. Anything can be a weapon.

As far as the issues of bombing these countries I will be honest and say that I am torn. 50% of me says that enough is enough and we should erradicate the source of 2000+ years worth of war. One big swoop, take all the war/hate mongoring countries out. If they do not exist then there will be no chance of a ressurgence of power by them. Of course my concious tells me that thousands upon thousands will die that are innocent. Frankly I would be happy about that in regards to those which I saw dancing in the streets on the videos from BBC. Or the partying in the streets that was reported by NPR in there talk with the prime minister of Isreal. Partying!! Sorry it angers me to think about this and my first reaction is "Blow em all back to allah!" On a more peacable retort, I beleive this should be treated as if hitler was alive again. This evil(not bin laden directly, though that man needs to die a painful death, he is a pawn) needs to be stopped once and for all. We need to take away everything they have and treat them like the children that they are. If you are handed "toys" that require responsibility, and you are not mature enough to handle them. Then like any parent would do, they "toy" should be taken away and the child; punished. By child I mean the governments. The people are mearly being brainwashed by there leaders. A child teaching another child there version of right and wrong. What should we do? Personally I think we need to cut them off from everything Take away there money, take away there power, communications, satelites. Instill a form a paralysis from the world. Walk in and appoint a new leader and forceable see it through. If that requires some death and bloodshed, then those are the pitfalls of war. But as any "civilized" country would do, minimize the damage to the innoccent civilians. exile the proponents(current government officials) to this way of warlike life. As bad as it may sound you have to look at the positive effects it eventually had on germany. Time will heal all wounds, it won't ride of us the memories, but it can stand as a reminder to people that freedom and peace have a price. The arabic govts in my opinion use the Islmaic religious structure to fuel the fire of the people. Its time to cut off the supply lines.

Dropping food on them? What a laughing stock we would become to them. These are a different people with a different way of life. The children are raised to give there life in the form of suicide as bomb carriers and terrorist. They are born with thier parent teaching them fear and hate. This is the problem!! Dropping food on them will not help with the instilled instincts that have been placed on them. They do not think as we do.

War has a price and sometimes for the greater good, you have to pay that price. And finally thank god china choose to side with us. I just hope there is not some greater problem brewing that we are blind to. Allthough my instincts and gut fear that there is.....

-- JS

BTW: And if you care: If anyone has not already figured it out the quote floating around the internet from the prophet nostrodamus about the twin brothers is completly bogus. I have spent the last few days researching this (my hobbies :) what can I say) that quote is actually:

The heavan shall burn 5 and 40 degrees, The fire shall come at the great new city, In an instant a great flame disppearsed shall burst out When they shall make trial of the normans. (5 and 40 would refer to a city in france if beleivable et all)

The one that continues to stick out in my mind is: The royal bird upon the city of the sun, Seven months togethere shall make a nocturnal augury The eastern wall shall fall, the lightning will shine, Then the enemies shall be at the gate for seven days. (Interperate as you will. The royal bird is an eagle and the wall needs no interpratation. I will refrain from further explination unless you are curious. email me)

And the origianl french quatrain: L'Oyseau Royal sur la cite Solaire, Sept mois devant fera nocturne augure Mur d'Oreint cherra tonnerre esclaire Sept jours aux portes les ennemis a l'heure, (The royal bird is an eagle)

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